Monday, June 23, 2008

ICE-T VS SOULJA PART 2


INFO COURTESY OF SOHH.COM

Veteran gangsta rapper Ice-T has released another video aimed at Soulja Boy in response to the Southern rapper's YouTube clip, making no apologies for starting the beef with the 17 year-old hip-hopper.

In his latest video, Ice-T explains that his original comments were made only after being asked his feelings on the state of hip-hop and on Soulja Boy.



Ice-T admits that as a rap legend he shouldn't have talked down to the teen but says he still believes Soulja Boy's music is garbage.

"Hip-Hop has to last forever and it ain't gonna last with you doing that superman bullsh*t man," Ice-T said. "That sh*t is whack, trust me." [Watch Below]

He goes on to say Soulja Boy never should've responded.

"When I dissed you, there's no ramifications you know," he said. "You can't hurt my career cause I'm caked out, there's nothing you can do to hurt me."

The beef began after Ice-T blamed Soulja Boy for being responsible for the death of hip-hop.

Soulja Boy then made his own video response questioning Ice-T's career choices.

"This n*gga Ice-T old as f*ck!" Soulja Boy said as he laughed into his web cam. "This n*gga old enough to be my great grandfather. I Wikipedia'ed this n*gga, he was born in 1958. [He] claims he's from the West Coast, n*gga you were born in New Jersey, dawg. Who is Ice-T, dawg? How you gonna make a song called ["Cop Killer"] and 35 years later your ass playing the police on TV, 'Law and Order'. This ain't no beef."

Despite the criticism from Ice-T, hip-hop megastar Kanye West spoke out on his blog in support of Soulja Boy.

"Soulja boy is fresh ass hell and is actually the true meaning of what hip hop is supposed to be," he wrote. "He came from the hood, made his own beats, made up a new saying, new sound and a new dance with one song. He had all of America rapping this summer. If that ain't hip-hop then what is? N*ggas always talk about the golden age but for a 13 year-old kid, this is the golden age!!! Keep this sh*t fresh and original.... ain't no f*ckin' rules to this sh*t and that's what real hip hop is to me."
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NOW I CAN SEE SOUJA'S POSITION BEING YOUNG, BROKE, COMING UP TRYING TO GET PAID AND SUDDENLY GETTING SUCCESS..AND HATS OFF TO HIM. BUT I ALSO SEE ICE'S SIDE AS WELL WITH MORE MEANING. I DON'T THINK IT'S A ICE-T VS SOULJA BOY BEEF. IT'S A REAL HIP-HOP VS COMMERICAL POP BEEF. AND THE SAD THING IS SOUJA BOY IS CONSIDERED HIP-HOP BY THE NEWS MEDIA. I THINK THAT'S WHERE TO FRUSTRATION BEGINS. EVERYONE IN HIP-HOP MUSIC IS SCARED TO UNITE IN REGARDS TO BRINGING ACTUAL TALENT BACK TO THE GAME. ITS EITHER ONE OR TWO CATS THAT SPEAK THEIR MIND..THEN THE ISSUE QUICKLY DISAPPEARS. THEY SAY THINGS MOVE IN CYCLES..WELL I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE LEGIT HIP-HOP CYCLE TO COME AROUND FOR A DECADE NOW! I MEAN GZA VOICED HIS OPINION LIVE ON STAGE REGARDING SOUJA BOY AND 50 CENT. BOTH 50 AND SOUJA FIRED BACK. THEN............? NOTHING. WHERE'S WU @? NOBODY HAS EACH OTHERS BACK ANYMORE. NOW WE HAVE SOUJA LAUGHING IT OFF WITH A VIDEO RESPONSE TO ICE CALLING HIM OLD AND OUTDATED ETC. WE NEED UNITY IN HIP-HOP! EVERYBODY IS TOO SCARED TO SAY SOMETHING FEARING RECORD SALES WILL BE EFFECTED. I'M SEEING TIME AND TIME AGAIN OLD SCHOOL LEGENDS GETTING DISSED BY THE YOUNGER GENERATION AND EVERYBODY'S TOO SHOOK TO SAY SOMETHING! AND NOW WE GOT KANYE CO-SIGNING SOULJA AND A INTERNET BUZZ QUESTIONING ICE-T BEING A LEGEND. ARE YOU FUCKEN KIDDING ME!??? HERE'S A LITTLE HIP-HOP 101..ICE-T IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A HIP-HOP LEGEND! TREND-SETTIN RHYME FLOWS, GANGSTA RAP STYLES,,AND THE CROSSOVER FROM RAPPING TO ACTING. GET IT TOGETHER YALL! SHIT..THIS SHIT CONTINUES I MAY HAVE TO GET UP IN THE BOOTH AND START REPRESENTIN FOR THE VETS WHO KEEP GETTIN SLEPT ON! TO BE CONTINUED!

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Man this post is really in-depth and I completely agree with you. The newer generation cats, in their own minds, believe that they can forget and/or diss the people we (the hip-hop community) call legends in this game. Maybe it's a marketing ploy conjured up by the suits that run these so called new gen rappers to diss the original trend setters. Good thing not a penny of my money goes to trash like 50 cent or Soulja Boy. It's sad that teenagers believe that crap is considered "music."

Anonymous said...

cosign.....but for me, real hiphop was neva gone....i just refuse to watch TV, and listen to no radio. Peace to all who kept it real. For me, people like DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Edo G, OC, DITC, Rasco, WuTang & Fam (Bronze Nazareth, Hell Razah, Killah Priest...), )th Wonder & the Justus League Camp, M-Phazes, Illmind, Common, Masta Ace, Freddie Foxxx, Big Shug, Sean P, KRS One, Kenn Starr, Skyzoo, Strange Fruit project , Talib Kweli, The UN....
those and more kept it fresh for me, was neva gone , the real!!!!
Big respect to Verbal Threat for that joints with Bronze and Preemo, that good ish.

Anonymous said...

Mad respect to Verbal Threat! It pains me to see how the face of hip hop has cheapened with so-called rappers like Soulja Boy or whatever his name is getting mass airplay. This same sort of thing happened when Nelly tried to battle KRS ONE a few years back. Now I have to give Nelly his due because he showed maturity when he realized he was out of line disrespecting a pioneer like KRS ONE and he is a man who worked hard with the music and fed his family. I can respect that. In the same vein, I can respect Soulja Boy for freeing himself from poverty by any means necessary. He did have to overcome struggles at a young age, be a role model for his family, get his money right and escape being poor. However, for a seventeen year old boy to be making a song so blatantly objectifiying women and using his position, in which all of America were listening to his words, to come out and tell a generation of young men to "Superman a hoe" and treat young women as mere playthings to be used not cherished is preposterous. To make matters worse, this arrogant little boy behaved like a fool when two legendary grown men like the GZA and the ORIGINAL GANGSTER ICE MUTHAFUCKIN' T commented on his immature and disrespectful use of the music and culture they helped create. Soulja Boy could have shown the world that he was a man, worthy of respect, and checked himself. Instead, he wrecked himself. The fact that we even have to "tell 'em" he is wrong demonstrates how little he knows about life. His only defense against GZA and Ice T's statements of opinion(aka the truth) was that they are old. Yes, they are old men. Older and wiser, with greater tesiclicular fortitude and an abundance of hair around said testicles. They are the Godfathers of this music and there would be no Soulja Boys without these grown ass men, so recognize, little fella, and stay in your place before you ruin your own career with usless bravado. I will end this with a KRS ONE quote: "When you arrive at a place, Hip Hop has arrived at that place. So if you are out there pimpin hustlin killin and stealin, look at what you are presenting the culture as.
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Anonymous said...

You hit it right on the nail. Tons of the cats are being labled "Hip-Hop" and the true heads standing there like "Then What Am I"
And I don't care what he accomplished, Kanye lost me on that one. To even put Soulja Boy in the same arena as NAS is insane or he just got caught up in the monent as usual.
I've not purchased a CD in years, who wants a $16 disc with 4 bangers and 16 flops. The days bumping a disc and not skippin' more than half the tracks are over. Big up Kool Sphere and all creative cats out there..
LuzeOne FC